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06-27-2008, 09:11 AM
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[QUOTE=rodalan;6362]
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Good questions. Other than fitting the newer batteries into the existing case (if possible), is there an easier solution? Who makes the 24V LA battery that comes with the bike? Do they perhaps make a 36V LiFePo4 that uses the same case?
hi, It is possible to fit 36v lifepo4 in existing case, someone on ENDLESS SPHERE did it by getting battery custom sized from pingping on ebay. you can email him at pingping227@hotmail.com
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Thanks rodalan. This seems like it would be the tidiest solution.
On another note, for those of you riding with the original SLA battery on an e-zip/i-zip, do you notice a significant weight bias on the battery side, i.e., do you find yourself over-compensating to balance the weight of the battery?
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06-27-2008, 11:16 AM
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[QUOTE=BikeToBus;6425][QUOTE=rodalan;6362]
Thanks rodalan. This seems like it would be the tidiest solution
This is the post i saw it my help, it has pretty good directions and pics
Endless-sphere.com • View topic - A different e-Zip Trailz
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06-27-2008, 12:18 PM
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Great! More excellent info. I hadn't seen that thread but read elsewhere on that site about folks drilling relief holes in the motor case for cooling.
Even though I don't have a bike yet, I am wondering about the pros and cons of drilling holes in the motor case.
With drilling the holes in the case, the obvious advantage is its cooling effect. However, does this significantly increase the maintenance needs? i.e. greasing, cleaning?
Summers are especially humid where I am so I am a bit concerned with moisture intrusion and corrosion. I'd be curious to know how well a drilled motor case with the K&N filter sock performed.
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06-27-2008, 01:19 PM
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[QUOTE=BikeToBus;6425]
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On another note, for those of you riding with the original SLA battery on an e-zip/i-zip, do you notice a significant weight bias on the battery side, i.e., do you find yourself over-compensating to balance the weight of the battery?
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Hey there BiketoBus,
To tell you the truth I really haven't. Perhaps if I had been able to purchase the second battery from Currie I would have if they were both mounted on the rack. Each SLA pack weighs 16 lbs. Maybe because I'm heavy at 185 lbs, I don't really feel the battery pack.
I originally thought it might be a problem since they do sit high rather than mounted low for a low center of gravity. It's really the weight of the bike as a whole at 58 lbs plus the 16 lb battery , and my weight of 185 lbs. At a total of 259 lbs trucking down the street, I'm glad I have the electric motor to help me up some of these steep hills..LOL
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06-28-2008, 02:56 AM
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[QUOTE=BikeToBus;6476]Great! More excellent info. I hadn't seen that thread but read elsewhere on that site about folks drilling relief holes in the motor case for cooling.
Even though I don't have a bike yet, I am wondering about the pros and cons of drilling holes in the motor case.
Hi Bike to Bus,
The Ezips are pretty good overall but if i had my time back, I woulda got a brushless hub motor kit from [url=http://www.goldenmotor.com ( $342 ) put it on a roadmaster steel frame bike from walmart it weighs bout 40lbs I think and cost bout $ 60 total $ 402 then add lifepo4 36v. Then forget about drilling holes, time it takes to remove back wheel etc. Damm maybe I,ll return ezip and do that lol
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06-28-2008, 11:34 AM
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[QUOTE=rodalan;6594][QUOTE=BikeToBus;6476]Great! More excellent info. I hadn't seen that thread but read elsewhere on that site about folks drilling relief holes in the motor case for cooling.
Even though I don't have a bike yet, I am wondering about the pros and cons of drilling holes in the motor case.
Hi Bike to Bus,
The Ezips are pretty good overall but if i had my time back, I woulda got a brushless hub motor kit from [url=http://www.goldenmotor.com ( $342 ) put it on a roadmaster steel frame bike from walmart it weighs bout 40lbs I think and cost bout $ 60 total $ 402 then add lifepo4 36v. Then forget about drilling holes, time it takes to remove back wheel etc. Damm maybe I,ll return ezip and do that lol[/QUOTE]
The holes in the motor only help if you are adding more voltage to the bike it keeps the motor cool. If you have the stock battery then adding holes does nothing for you.
By the way goldenmotor has a really bad reputation. If you get a motor go with the crystalyte that is what most do it your self people are getting.
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06-28-2008, 11:58 PM
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The holes in the motor only help if you are adding more voltage to the bike it keeps the motor cool. If you have the stock battery then adding holes does nothing for you.
By the way goldenmotor has a really bad reputation. If you get a motor go with the crystalyte that is what most do it your self people are getting.
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your right i was just venting, we all want a high top speed and golden will be around 25, c,lite 22 for same bucks and brushed, but 25 without drilling holes on a 24v motor seems less insane, but im keepin ezip ive grown attached lol, its heavy but maybe it needs to be. I just find it funny when ppl try to re-invent the wheel lol, just tryin so many things to find something that already exists, and btw ezip reviews are bad too by ppl that got kits
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06-29-2008, 12:52 PM
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To quote Michael Cane from the Italian Job. "Lads, I've got a plan"... :)
What about buying a plastic enclosure that matched the dimensions of the battery pack (minus the extra that slips around the frame bars)? You just put a set of double wings,say two metal "U" bars (like you sometimes see on the back of PCs), and two contacts on the bottom (again, not really hard) then pack it with what you want. You can even increase the depth of the enclosure to add more batteries... :)
Getting an enclosure that is a good fit could be tricky but does that sound plausable?
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Hi jennih,
I was thinking of rigging up something like this because I like having the rack for carring real items and dont want batteries on it. But... since then, I've decided to get a trailer and I'm not yet sure what battery technology to go with.
Thanks for posting your idea... sounds plausible to me!
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06-29-2008, 12:54 PM
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Hi ReviewGuy,
I just wanted to let you know that yesterday I was able to dismount the rear tire and replace it with the other Specialized CrossRoads 26x1.95 tire. It wasn't as difficult as I thought, but if you get a flat with this bike away from home, I doubt you'd be fixing it on the street.
You want to start by making sure the bike is in the highest gear (1st gear) and then laying a tarp down on the floor. Turning the bike upside down onto the handlebars and seat. Then get some snips and cut the first two (2) zip ties holding the motor power wires to the frame (these are the two closest zip ties to the motor). Now, if you check the owners manual and turn to page 95, which details how to adjust the motor drive chain, it'll show you the bolts and nuts that you actually want to remove rather than loosen as stated in the manual.
Once the 5mm motor plate and 15mm axle nuts are removed, pull the wheel slightly off the frame enough to remove the thin 17mm inner axle nut. Once removed, the motor and plate will come off and you can lay them down on the floor and remove the wheel like on any other bike.
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BRAVO!! In all the forums I've checked so far, you are the only one that has provided a good description of how to remove the back tire! Thank you!!!!
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06-29-2008, 01:02 PM
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[QUOTE=rodalan;6363]
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Hi rodalan and jennih... I have not yet found a source for empty currie battery packs.. those retailers rodalan listed only sell the stock currie batteries in the cases and there is a significant markup on them.
Your best bet to find an empty case that is not being used is to cruise the forums on the net and find someone that is no longer using their case. BUT.. so far, everyone I have spoken with, still wants to keep the case in the event they resell the bike, they want it to be as stock as possible, so I have not had luck with this approach.
Hmmm.. looks like a good market could be started for recreating something that is easy to use that will fit in those battery racks. Hmmmm.
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06-29-2008, 01:08 PM
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...and btw ezip reviews are bad too by ppl that got kits
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I think non-ezip buyers are just frustrated (and a bit jealous) that their bikes cost them at least double the money. (some folks have paid 10 times as much)
I love my ezip.. and it seems it is nicely modifiable. It is probably the best purchase I have made in a very long time. I researched the kits before purchasing the ezip... and none of the kits could come close to the value for a complete up and running e-bike in a reasonable price bracket.
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06-29-2008, 06:22 PM
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I love my ezip.. and it seems it is nicely modifiable. It is probably the best purchase I have made in a very long time. I researched the kits before purchasing the ezip... and none of the kits could come close to the value for a complete up and running e-bike in a reasonable price bracket.
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Hey How2,
Your statement is right on the money and I can't agree more. The more I ride this bike, the more I love it and keep adding additional equipment to it.
In fact, I just switched the seat out for one far more comfortable due to the fact I've been riding it upwards of 8 miles a day or more. I actually loved the look of the original seat with the triple-colored vinyl, but my comfort at this point is more important than esthetics.
Between the tires and seat, I've turned this electric mountain bike into an Electric cruiser...LOL. As soon as I get the custom 12 volt horn I'm having made (should arrive in July) and the LiFePo4 batteries, (ordering tomorrow) I'll take a video and post it to the forum so everyone will be able to see how far you can take one of these bikes. I've had to many close calls with cars around my area and found I really need a professional loud horn to deal with cars. A simple "ding-ding" or buzzer horn is good for pedestrians, but having two types of horns on a bike I think is very important.
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06-30-2008, 04:37 AM
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Hmmm.. looks like a good market could be started for recreating something that is easy to use that will fit in those battery racks. Hmmmm.
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Ok, I'm going to use my busuness contacts to try and source an appropriate enclosure then I'll have a little play...
Hey, my partner and I built a wind turbine from scratch, how hard can this be?
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06-30-2008, 12:46 PM
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In fact, I just switched the seat out for one far more comfortable due to the fact I've been riding it upwards of 8 miles a day or more.
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Quote:
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As soon as I get the custom 12 volt horn I'm having made (should arrive in July) and the LiFePo4 batteries, (ordering tomorrow) I'll take a video and post it to the forum so everyone will be able to see how far you can take one of these bikes.
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The seat was just ok for me. I added a cheapo gel seat cover that is working for now. Looking forward to seeing pics of your "cruiser" .. LOL!
Did you say YOU MADE a custom 12 volt horn? Are you hooking it into your existing batts? I've think a horn is needed for sure. Even pedestrians look straight at me and don't see me. I guess when people are walking around, they can REALLY block things out!  I was close to purchasing an "air zound" horn, but I read a review that says they don't work in cold weather.. hmmmph!  Sooooo.. I'm interested in whatever solution you have come up with for this.
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06-30-2008, 12:53 PM
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Ok, I'm going to use my busuness contacts to try and source an appropriate enclosure then I'll have a little play...
Hey, my partner and I built a wind turbine from scratch, how hard can this be?
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go jennih.. go jennih!!! If you build something that works just like or similar to the standard Currie pack... you will be a Rock Star and I'm sure you can sell them.  If you come up with something even more expandable,.. like the ability to hold 3 12v bats for 36 volts (which our ezips can use standardly), that would be fantastic! I wonder if there is a plastic tool box out there already that might fit the space.. perhaps a lockable tool box... just throwing ideas out there.
ok.. i know this is a bit off topic.. but did you or can you post pics or how to instructions for your wind turbine. I am SUPER interested. Perhaps there is another place on the forum we can discuss this. 
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06-30-2008, 03:52 PM
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Did you say YOU MADE a custom 12 volt horn? Are you hooking it into your existing batts? I've think a horn is needed for sure. Even pedestrians look straight at me and don't see me.
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Hi How2,
My solution is not the end all solution to having a great bicycle horn, but after investigating ALL the options available and not being impressed by any of them, I think my solution is a great one and a horn that even cars will respond to, not to mention a professional one.
A company I know called, "BikeTac.com", a member of the International Police Mountain Bike Association that also supplies Police bicycle emergency equipment and bicycles to law enforcement agencies, is producing a great horn called the BikeTac's Galeforce Blaster that will ship on July 14th for the first time. It is a 108db horn that works with a 9-volt battery or can be wiring directly to a 6volt-15volt DC source at a cost of $36.95 plus shipping and is very compact.
It seems a few weeks ago I was the first one to order it and was told that I'll be the first one in the country to have it. It seemed like a great deal since the horn is very compact and can be mounted on the handlebars or on the rear rack. When you order it, just note in the ordering process which mount you would like.
The link to BikeTac is below and the GaleForce Blaster is the 4th listed. In all their sirens and horns listed, there is a link in the description to hear what each sounds like, so you'll know exactly what you are getting. Hope this information helps.
Bicycle Sirens
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06-30-2008, 04:29 PM
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Hello all -
I am in the market for a motorized bike, and have researched online about how to shop for one. This one came up as the most affordable. Wal-mart is no longer selling it, though it can be bought online via NorthernTools. Before I hit the streets and search the shops here in Albuquerque, my question is this: are these most commonly found in bike shops or motorcycle shops? Or did you all buy yours online? I tried our scooter shop, but they didn't have any.
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06-30-2008, 05:08 PM
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Before I hit the streets and search the shops here in Albuquerque, my question is this: are these most commonly found in bike shops or motorcycle shops? Or did you all buy yours online?
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Welcome Barbara,
I think I can pretty much speak for most if not all here, we've purchased our Electric bikes online. My E-Zip Mountain Trailz was purchased online from Northern Tool and arrived at my home about 5 or 6 days later. Only a few of the bike stores in my area (Long Island, New York) had electric bikes, and those that did had the least expensive at about $1,600.00 for a bottom end Schwinn with a small 200 watt motor. You'd be far better off purchasing online and save your gas. Hope this helps.
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07-02-2008, 07:01 AM
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go jennih.. go jennih!!! If you build something that works just like or similar to the standard Currie pack... you will be a Rock Star and I'm sure you can sell them.  If you come up with something even more expandable,.. like the ability to hold 3 12v bats for 36 volts (which our ezips can use standardly), that would be fantastic! I wonder if there is a plastic tool box out there already that might fit the space.. perhaps a lockable tool box... just throwing ideas out there.
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I'm thinking that a custom enclosure for security ACUs will do the trick (my company installs security access control and a pretty plastic box on the wall seems to be essential for giving the costomer peace of mind :) )
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ok.. i know this is a bit off topic.. but did you or can you post pics or how to instructions for your wind turbine. I am SUPER interested. Perhaps there is another place on the forum we can discuss this. 
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Sure thing! It's a little crude as it's our first prototype but it's working fine for my sister at her stables, it's not large but the principles are sound and could be easily scaled up (our next project). In fact a lot of the info for building it we got off of the web, such as the blades made from drain pipe.
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So......How Bad Do You Want It Barbara?
LOL............... Couldnt resist this title.
Anyway, Hi!!
Walmart.com still sells the Trailz. Here is how you get it.........First stick to what model you want, I believe you have your choice of three. Second babysit the site, paying close attention bookmark the site so you have instant access. The day or minute your bike becomes available....make the purchase, I should really say investment. You can always call Walmart.com and try whining at them...might work ..if it does let all of us know.
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