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G16 Review - E-Zip trailz electric bicycle

Review - E-Zip trailz electric bicycle.

See video of bike HERE

Building it:

Just got an E-Zip trailz electric bicycle the other day. The E-Zip mountain trailz electric bicycle came with all the tools I needed to build it and very detailed directions which I never used The bike is almost completely assembled you just need to install the handlebars, seat, front tire, and then check to make sure all bolts are tight. The tires also needed to be fully inflated so make sure you get a bike pump preferably with a built in PSI gauge. Make sure you inflate the tires to the maximum PSI allowed. In all it should only take about 15 minutes to unpack and build.

The Ride:

I took the bike for a 14.4 mile ride on my first trip. The trip I planned was uphill half of the way which I didn't realize until I was already on my way. The hill was not steep at all but it was definitely not flat. Over all I traveled 6.7 miles up a small incline hill, .5 up a big hill, and then 6.7 down hill and .5 miles down hill. Going up the .5 mile hill after already going 7.2 miles sucked some serious juice out of the batteries. I was still able to make it back home at full speed until about 1/4 from my house the batteries started to die. I did peddle most of the way up hill but didn't really peddle when going down hill. When I say peddling I was not peddling hard at all and was just basically going through the motion of peddling. However I did peddle a little hard when going up the steep hill because I was a little worried I would run out of power and be stuck 6 miles from home.

Top Speed:

As far as top speed I don't know for sure but it was definitely fast enough to make people turn around and look. The motor was pretty quite but it is noticeable when you fly past somebody walking down the street. The top rated speed is 18mph but if you peddle and assist the motor you can probably get up to 25mph. That will be my next test to see what the actual speed is without peddling, with mild peddling, and with hard peddling.

Review:

I love the bike and look forward to my next ride. Great bike for people looking to get some exercise or just want to cruise around town and never touch the peddles once. Overall this was the least expensive bike I could find. It actually cost less than a non motorized bike I was going to buy but is much more fun. If you are looking to save money on gas or commute to work then I would definitely consider this bike. You can also add a second battery which doubles the estimated 15 - 18 mile range to 30 - 36 miles.

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- Buy a bike lock (These bikes get a lot of attention good and bad)
- Buy a bike pump with built in gauge and inflate tires to maximum PSI.
- Start charging the batteries as soon as you get the bike.
- Check all bolts and make sure the front and rear brakes work.
- To save power peddle to 5 - 10 mph before using motor (Taking off from 0 mph all the time will suck up a lot of electricity)
- When going down hills don't use the motor.
- After you ride the bike charge the batteries right away.

UPDATE:

After picking up a cateye micro wireless speedometer I took the bike out for another test drive. See my review of the cateye speedometer here

The test environment:

The bike was tested with a full charge using the stock SLA 24v 10ah battery pack. This was the 6th time the battery pack was charged. The test rider was wearing normal cargo shorts and a tee shirt. Rider weight is 170 lbs. Tested on a flat road with the outside temp at 75 degrees. Tires were inflated to the maximum PSI as specified on the tire. The cateye speedometer was calibrated to the exact tire diameter.

Tests:

No Peddling
Test 1 - No peddling sitting upright avg. top speed was 17.2MPH
Test 2 - No peddling bent over for most aerodynamic position avg. top speed was 17.8MPH

Mild Peddling
Test 3 - Mild peddling sitting upright avg. top speed was 18.3MPH
Test 4 - Mild peddling bent over for most aerodynamic position avg. top speed was 18.9MPH

Hard peddling
Test 5 - Hard peddling bent over for most aerodynamic position avg. top speed was 23.7MPH

UPDATE1:

Small Hill Test No Peddling
Test 6 - Small downhill speed test, no peddling, stitting in upright position 19MPH
Test 7 - Small downhill speed test, no peddling, bent over for most aerodynamic position avg. top speed was 19.6MPH

Test 8 - Small uphill speed test, no peddling, stitting in upright position 15.2MPH
Test 9 - Small uphill speed test, no peddling, bent over for most aerodynamic position avg. top speed was 15.6MPH

Small Hill Test Peddling
Test 6 - Small downhill speed test, mild peddling, stitting in upright position 22.3MPH
Test 7 - Small downhill speed test, mild peddling, bent over for most aerodynamic position avg. top speed was 23.9MPH

Test 8 - Small uphill speed test, mild peddling, stitting in upright position 17.8MPH
Test 9 - Small uphill speed test, mild peddling, bent over for most aerodynamic position avg. top speed was 18.6MPH

See a video of the bike in action HERE

NEXT TEST:

The next test will be with a lifePO4 36v 15ah battery pack. This should increase the power of the motor by 50%. With no peddling the new top speed should be around 25MPH. Check back soon for 36v battery test results.
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I was looking at a couple of these bikes at the store today and I am undecided between a regular bike and one of the electric ones. If I were living in the city still I would buy one in a heartbeat, but where I live now I would just be doing recreational biking and not so much errand running.
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Man these bikes are a blast! I have had mine for about 3 weeks and have taken it out for a ride every single day. Since I live in california and it is now summer I can go for a nice ride every night around 8pm while it is still in the mid 70's outside. Great way to get some fresh air and relax. Anyway below are some more ezip review details.

Ezip trailz mountain bike test:

Terrain: 50% flat surface, 25% downhill, 25% uphill.
Total time: 32.09 minutes
Avg speed: 16.2 MPH
Total distance: 8.69 Miles

Had to stop 4 times for street lights, test was performed with no peddling on flat surface or while going down hill. I did peddle mildly while going up the hills.

36v test is coming soon!
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G16 36V test!

Just installed my 36v lifePO4 battery and went for a test ride. All I can say is HOLY CR@P!

Top speed on flat surface 27.6MPH (could gone faster if I bent over to be more aerodynamic but that is a little scary go this fast.)
Top speed up mild hill 24.3MPH
The sound of the motor at these speeds was AWESOME!
Smile on my face endless!

27MPH was amazling fast on a bicycle. I thought I wanted to build a bike with a X5 or BMC motor and add enough juice to do 40+MPH but I think 27MPH is plenty fast.

Gotta get some sleep but will post how to video and video of the 36v bike in action tomorrow!


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Default ezip trails mountain bike modified to 36v

Youtube video of the bike running at 36v with a 50% increase in top speed and torque. Will post video with complete directions on how to perform the mod in a few days.

YouTube - E-Zip Trailz Mountain Bike Modified to 36v - 27MPH
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Hi folks,

I was undecided about purchasing this E-Zip bike until I ran across "TheReviewGuy's" test and was immediately sold on it. Besides, purchasing a bike like this from Northern Tool was far less expensive than the original Electric bike I wanted from NYCeWheels which was going to be in the $2,000.00 range, the E-Zip was a far better deal. I'm not going to go into a detailed review because TheReviewGuy has done a great job of that.

I would like to say how impressed I am with the fit and paint finish of this bike, which was flawless. I did try to order a complete second battery pack from Currie, but they are back ordered until maybe August 2008. Eventually, I'm going to try and upgrade the SLA batteries to NiMh or LiFePo, but for now I'm keeping it as is. Within the next few days, I'm going to change out the mountain type tires for more streetable and less rolling resistance tires. I just have to find which would be a good pair to buy.

I did add a few CatEye accessories to my E-zip, such as the 10 function wireless speedo, HL-EL530 super bright headlight, TL-LD1000 tail light, and a SunLite Toploader 1 Rack Bag. I thought a few photos would be more interesting below. Enjoy.













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Just installed my 36v lifePO4 battery and went for a test ride. All I can say is HOLY CR@P!

That is amazing! Which bike did you use for that, not the E-zip? How much did the modification cost?

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That is amazing! Which bike did you use for that, not the E-zip? How much did the modification cost?

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Yes it's the ezip trailz mountain bike. I took pictures of how to perform the mod and will be posting them all over the weekend. I should of taken a video of the bike then me getting on it and taking off. check back to see how to perform this mode with detailed pictures and directions.
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Default Heat tests

I used a fluke laser Infrared thermometer on my motor to see how hot it gets at 42v at full throttle for 30 minutes in 90 degree weather. I pointed the laser all over it and found that the front of the motor is much hotter than any place else. The back was 109 degrees, the outer ribbed circle was also 109, but the front of the motor was 147 degrees.

I also opened up the box holding the controller and checked the temp in there and everything was 97 degrees the controller was 107 degrees. Nothing out of the ordinary.

Checked the batteries as well the lifepo4 cells were 97 degrees so no issue there.
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Yes it's the ezip trailz mountain bike. I took pictures of how to perform the mod and will be posting them all over the weekend.

I can't wait to see the photos how to make this modification. I may have to go with NiMH batteries due to the excessive cost of the LiFePO batteries.

Also, if you want to get even more speed out of it, get rid of the mountain tires. I installed a "Specialized Crossroads Flak Jacket Protection" 26" x 1.95" tire on the front which has much less road resistance. It has a max inflation pressure of 80 PSI. It upped my speed from 15.1. MPH to 16.4 MPH under identical conditions. I just haven't been able to install the rear yet because I'm trying to figure out how to do it on this bike.

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I can't wait to see the photos how to make this modification. I may have to go with NiMH batteries due to the excessive cost of the LiFePO batteries.

Also, if you want to get even more speed out of it, get rid of the mountain tires. I installed a "Specialized Crossroads Flak Jacket Protection" 26" x 1.95" tire on the front which has much less road resistance. It has a max inflation pressure of 80 PSI. It upped my speed from 15.1. MPH to 16.4 MPH under identical conditions. I just haven't been able to install the rear yet because I'm trying to figure out how to do it on this bike.

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Nice ride! I see you got the wireless speedometer as well. I was thinking about getting some Fat Frank tires because they are huge and increase the total size of the tires by at least a few inches which would increase the top speed as well. Not sure what the total PSI is though. How much were the tires you go? I was also concerned about installing the back tire as well but that will be my next modification. If I can increase my avg top speed to 30MPH with a simple tire change that would be awesome!

Anyway I have taken so many pictures of how to perform the modification that it will take a few hours to put them all togather and add directions. I should have them complete tomorrow night.

Just got done with a two day test and posted the results in the bike section check it out.
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How much were the tires you go? I was also concerned about installing the back tire as well but that will be my next modification. If I can increase my avg top speed to 30MPH with a simple tire change that would be awesome!
I decided to purchase them full retail at my local bike shop. They cost $29.95each, but are superior to the original tires in every way and ride far better, even inflated to their max psi of 80 psi. I'd love to get a Fat Frank for the rear of this bike. If you do, post your results.

As far as removing the rear tire, I think I'm going to attempt it today. If I do, I'll post the outcome.

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Hi!

Love the videos and review, I must admit the idea of doing nearly 30 on a bicycle seems just a bit for hairy for me... :)

Anyway, to my question:

I just bought the following bike:

Izip Trailz ST Electric Mountain Bike for Gents

here in the UK (I got the "gents" one as I think the women's design looks lousy). Am I right in thinking that this is a the E-Zip with different branding for the UK market?

Oh, I did some looking into the 36v conversion for the trailz and found another site that had info on it (which I notice EcoForumz posts on) but most people who converted had to make some sort of cooling for the engine to stop it overheating and dieing.

How's your conversion going and is cooling an issue?

I don't think I'd want the near 30mph speed, but i live in Wales and it's very hilly (some v. steep gradients) and the extra "grunt" for those hills would be very useful.

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Hi!

Love the videos and review, I must admit the idea of doing nearly 30 on a bicycle seems just a bit for hairy for me... :)

Anyway, to my question:

I just bought the following bike:

Izip Trailz ST Electric Mountain Bike for Gents

here in the UK (I got the "gents" one as I think the women's design looks lousy). Am I right in thinking that this is a the E-Zip with different branding for the UK market?

Oh, I did some looking into the 36v conversion for the trailz and found another site that had info on it (which I notice EcoForumz posts on) but most people who converted had to make some sort of cooling for the engine to stop it overheating and dieing.

How's your conversion going and is cooling an issue?

I don't think I'd want the near 30mph speed, but i live in Wales and it's very hilly (some v. steep gradients) and the extra "grunt" for those hills would be very useful.
Engine Cooling

Found a K&N filter that fits perfectly, is water resistant, and can withstand up to 230 degrees. I have tested a none modified motor and the hottest it has ever gotten was 147 degrees. They have 3 different filter wraps to choose from but I chose the snowcharger because it is also water repellent.

No need to worry about water or dirt getting in now!

Complete directions with pictures on how to modify the motor to increase airflow will be uploaded this week. I am waiting for the filter to arrive before I modify the motor for increased cooling.

Before anybody asks I did speak to K&N about the temperature rating and to outerwares who actually makes these filters for K&N.

Filter website is HERE

Here she is... What a beauty!
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Anyway, to my question:

I just bought the following bike:

Izip Trailz ST Electric Mountain Bike for Gents

here in the UK (I got the "gents" one as I think the women's design looks lousy). Am I right in thinking that this is a the E-Zip with different branding for the UK market?

Hey Jennih,

The I-Zip is supposed to be a step-up from the E-Zip model. If you check the specs compared to the E-Zip Mountain/Trailz version, you'll see that what you purchased has more features to it. For one thing, it has a front disc brake, the handle bar has an angle adjustment, and the frame is aluminum rather than steel. What I don't understand is that with an aluminum frame, why is the bike just about as heavy as the E-Zip version. Still, you have a great bike and congratulations on your purchase.

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hi.

I have read lots of other forums about the Ezip and it seems the ones that overheat or burn out motor are not in the states with the 24v /450 watt motor, other countries are limited the 200 or 250 watt motor maybe thats the reason. With a 36v 10 ah battery installed it should only be 360 watts going to the 450 watt motor, does that make sense im new and just guessing
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With a 36v 10 ah battery installed it should only be 360 watts going to the 450 watt motor, does that make sense im new and just guessing
Hi there Rodalan,

I realize you mention you're only guessing with all of this, but If you're guessing that a 36v 10 ah battery equals 360 watts going to a 450 watt motor, does that also mean the stock 24v 10 ah battery is only sending 240 watts to a 450 watt motor?? Is the E-Zip 450 watt motor rating actually peak wattage and it's actual continuous rating is only 250 watts on this motor?

I'd love to know what the formula is to actually calculate all of this. An interesting question to say the least. Perhaps someone will chime in and can answer all of this.


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HI richie,

I was goin by what i read at Crystalyte Hub Motors, Eon Lithium Batteries, Electric Bikes, Electric Scooters, Parts, Service they sell hub motors and do not say what the watts are on there motors, but tell you to multiply the volts by the amps to find the watts to motor. ( 36v x 10a = 360w ) As far as peak watts on motor etc i have no clue lol,

I have a ezip trailz but only for a few weeks, it has black paint and came with smooth tires. I plan on gettin lifepo4 battery , Review Guy is doing a great job testing his for all of us lol
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With a 36v 10 ah battery installed it should only be 360 watts going to the 450 watt motor, does that make sense im new and just guessing
Hey Rodalan,

I was looking over some paper work I have pertaining to a small solar array I have and found a very important formula to convert battery amp-hours to watt hours.

To convert a battery's amp-hour capacity to watt-hours, multiply the amp-hours times the voltage.

To figure out how much battery capacity it will require to run an appliance for a given time, multiply the appliance wattage times the number of hours it will run to yield the total watt-hours. Then divide by the battery voltage to get the amp hours.

For example, running a 60-watt lightbulb for one hour uses 60 watt-hours. If a 12-volt battery is running the light it will consume 5 amp-hours (60 watt-hours divided by 12 volts equals 5 amp-hours)


It seems to me the E-Zip 450 watt electric motor would require 18.75 ah's to run for one hour. I assume that would be running at full speed. This is very interesting and may show this 10 ah battery is underpowered.
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This is very interesting and may show this 10 ah battery is underpowered.[/QUOTE]

hi Richie,
Yes i agree, i got a second battery pack too and was a waste of money. It just makes the bike heavier and does not double the range at least not for me. Theres a lifepo4 36v 10ah on ebay right now from foxx batteries for $374 free shipping and includes bms & charger (good deal) I wanted it but wont have cash in time, things are ruff in florida right now lol
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